Genetics British Deaf Association and Tomato: Audism

From: "Tomato Lichy"
Subject: GLDA
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:54:58 +0100

Hi John

As you know, I'm trying to relaunch the GLDA. As you and betty have
shown your passion and commitment to activism and campaigning, I'd like
to ask you to be a part of it.

I have put your names up for committee, but many people have said they
find it difficult to work with you and Betty (which you probably
already know!) so your names didn't go through, sorry.

I sympathise with you and Betty, as in the past I also had a reputation
for being difficult to work with!

I still want to have the new GLDA be more campaigning and I am hoping
to put a motion to the BDA AGM in January that will give us more
flexibility to campaign on issues for London Deaf people.

At the moment, it is still very early days, and when things get moving
a bit more, then we can have a campaigns project group, which you and
Betty might be able to join.

All the best,

xx Tomato

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From: "John Savva"
Subject: Re: GLDA
To: "Tomato Lichy"

Dear Tomato,

I feel this is definately all about audism, and favourism to be selective of deaf people. I feel you and other deaf people actually are audism. Deaf against other Deaf.

I already know there were a meeting with deaf people, and you did not actually invite me or Betty.

We are not being difficult to work with, it is actually "bad attitude" of deaf people including you among to us.

We already have been in GLDA with Tyron and Alan Murray and we already put our names, addresses and they assured that when GLDA relaunch, we will able to join, and we have not been informed you have replaced (no public votes) so there is favourism and audism.

I am copying this to Betty who should know about this.

John.

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From: "Tomato Lichy"
Subject: Re: GLDA
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:33:05 +0100
To: "John Savva"

Hi John and Betty

Yes of course you know about the meeting. I TOLD YOU ABOUT IT! Do you
not remember me coming up to you in the GLA round table meeting and
chatting briefly to both of you about the GLDA? I told you the same as
I told everyone else who i thought might be interested in joining the
GLDA committee.

I know it wasn't much info, that's cos I didn't have much info myself.
I have been struggling for months with BDA rules and bureaucracy, I
have had people from BDA central telling me I must get everything
approved by the National Board of Trustees, right down to checking how
many times I wipe my bum after taking a poo!

I didn't know betty's email address so I emailed john first, I know you
would pass onto betty. Now I have it, I am sending this to her too.

You are not the only people who didn't get onto the committee. Other
people were also rejected. I have to check names with Agnes Dyab, who
is my BDA board member for London. It has been very very difficult to
get things going.

It is important to remember it is a delicate time for GLDA, it's been
dead for a while, and everyone has to work together to bring it back to
life.

I actually wanted you to be involved in some way, cos of your
campaigning, but other people said no. A lot of highly skilled people
said they would withdraw if you were involved. I'm sorry, but that's
the reaction your actions have caused.

When we have our next AGM in 2008, there will be open elections, and
you are welcome to stand for chair yourself to replace me if you want.

We still need a gay, lesbian, bi and transexual subcommittee, and to
update policy on these issues, so when we are running more smoothly,
you can, if you want, apply to join these subcommittees.

( I am aware that some transexuals don't like being joined in with
GLBT, that is another area where policy needs to be updated, which
needs to be led by transexual deafs, not by me)

cheers xx Tomato

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From: "John Savva" <
Subject: Re: GLDA
To: "Tomato Lichy"


Dear Tomato,

1. You just asked me to join GLDA personally but you never asked Betty. I have said you should ask Betty to join, you were avoiding and explain it is very difficult situation, and you heard the wrong information about what happened in the past. I assured that you should ask us both. You were uncomfortable. That is your attitude and other people attitude linking to audism.

2. If BDA or GLDA have problem with us, they (Agnes or Chair of BDA) should set up a face to face meeting, and sit down and place issues on the table, and sort out issues directly with us but nothing happened.

3. Selecting committees are bias, judemental and favourism. No question asked. I do not want to involve in any committees even LGBT committees until because AUDISM ACTUALLY EXIST. There are lots of LGBT discriminate us and how can we work with them when lots of audism (both direct and hidden behaviours) exists???

4. We are not interested in personal, we just interested in campaigning and fighting for deaf people, always have been. and we alot have successful with campaigning. Deaf people do want us to succeed. That is the problem with your group.

5. You said "A lot of highly skilled people said they would withdraw if you were involved. I'm sorry, but that's the reaction your actions have caused." That is why many deaf people drop out, give up and not support GLDA, and BDA because of that attitudes (audism), that is why BDA now become weak and in danger.

You are in fact personally and professionally BIG RESPONSIBILITY OF THESE ACTIONS AND CONSEQUENCES IT HAS CAUSED IN PAST YEARS.

John.


After my email, Tomato or BDA did not contact me as they are audism.
John.